Extract seems really good but labeling is probably out of date as customer service says their current kushen extract is standardized for Oxymatrine not Lupeol. Opposite of what label says. Apparently that's leftover from a previous version of the product. Not important to me... Might be problematic for someone else *Edit* given reply below I'd like to simply again point out to you that the label says 40% lupeol. Which both you and customer service agree it doesn't have (you just said 20% Lupeol). I don't care about Lupeol. I mean it's inclusion is fine. But I want oxymatrine (or alternatively matrine.) Apparently you removed matrine altogether. I probably don't prefer that, but whatever. I'd just again point out the label doesn't match anything either of your reps have said. Might want to work on that part.

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